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	<title>Comments on: ScrumMasters Should Not Go Fly Fishing for Cattle</title>
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	<description>with Sterling Barton</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Sterling</title>
		<link>http://www.gettingagile.com/2008/01/09/scrummasters-should-not-go-fly-fishing-for-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Sterling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day Dan McCarty,

I have found that teaching the CSM course and then following up with individuals after to see how they have used what they have learned has uncovered both good and bad.  If you are interested only in the certification and not how you are going to use the teachings for the betterment of your teams it could be a waste of time.

Scrum is something that cannot be done effectively without practice.  It is based on the concept of inspecting and adapting your process based on results (empirical process control).  The CSM course has been developed to get people started on the road to using the Scrum framework so that current impediments can be made visible and worked on.

If you are interested in speaking with me about this and maybe discussing your concerns with Scrum training I would be more than happy to do so.  Contact me through the about page.

Thank you for your comment and I hope that whatever your software development experiences are that they include fun and effectiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day Dan McCarty,</p>
<p>I have found that teaching the CSM course and then following up with individuals after to see how they have used what they have learned has uncovered both good and bad.  If you are interested only in the certification and not how you are going to use the teachings for the betterment of your teams it could be a waste of time.</p>
<p>Scrum is something that cannot be done effectively without practice.  It is based on the concept of inspecting and adapting your process based on results (empirical process control).  The CSM course has been developed to get people started on the road to using the Scrum framework so that current impediments can be made visible and worked on.</p>
<p>If you are interested in speaking with me about this and maybe discussing your concerns with Scrum training I would be more than happy to do so.  Contact me through the about page.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment and I hope that whatever your software development experiences are that they include fun and effectiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Makunda Thapa</title>
		<link>http://www.gettingagile.com/2008/01/09/scrummasters-should-not-go-fly-fishing-for-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Makunda Thapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind that means scrum master should not tackle all the development problems. You can reword this if you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind that means scrum master should not tackle all the development problems. You can reword this if you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Droz</title>
		<link>http://www.gettingagile.com/2008/01/09/scrummasters-should-not-go-fly-fishing-for-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Droz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also like to see pictagrams describing what a ScrumMaster should do. Too much is made of what SM shouldn&#039;t do. This is the only role on a Scrum team that receives so much negative attention. You could easily write about what devs, product owners or quality folks shouldn&#039;t do. And they would all be valid.

Anyway, back to your original questions - which I do think is interesting.

What jumps out at me is the fact that the pictagram shows the ScrumMaster and team member as different species.

So I see this as don&#039;t separate yourself from the team. Participate in the same activities as the team. Or, don&#039;t go fishing for the team, go fishing with the team.

Also, don&#039;t whip the team, whip impediments.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to see pictagrams describing what a ScrumMaster should do. Too much is made of what SM shouldn&#8217;t do. This is the only role on a Scrum team that receives so much negative attention. You could easily write about what devs, product owners or quality folks shouldn&#8217;t do. And they would all be valid.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to your original questions &#8211; which I do think is interesting.</p>
<p>What jumps out at me is the fact that the pictagram shows the ScrumMaster and team member as different species.</p>
<p>So I see this as don&#8217;t separate yourself from the team. Participate in the same activities as the team. Or, don&#8217;t go fishing for the team, go fishing with the team.</p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t whip the team, whip impediments.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McCarty</title>
		<link>http://www.gettingagile.com/2008/01/09/scrummasters-should-not-go-fly-fishing-for-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan McCarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically I got here via a link entitled something like &#039;Certified ScrumMaster isn&#039;t worth the paper it&#039;s printed on..&#039;.

Kind of proves his point doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically I got here via a link entitled something like &#8216;Certified ScrumMaster isn&#8217;t worth the paper it&#8217;s printed on..&#8217;.</p>
<p>Kind of proves his point doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Vizdos</title>
		<link>http://www.gettingagile.com/2008/01/09/scrummasters-should-not-go-fly-fishing-for-cattle/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Vizdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Great article and something I may use in a future class!

You may want to check out www.implemetingscrum.com for examples of things that are very similar to this blog entry.

If anything, you may see some great cartoons you can share with your teams or friends around the world who are using some of these techniques.

Hope this helps!

- mike vizdos
    www.michaelvizdos.com
    www.implementingscrum.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Great article and something I may use in a future class!</p>
<p>You may want to check out <a href="http://www.implemetingscrum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.implemetingscrum.com</a> for examples of things that are very similar to this blog entry.</p>
<p>If anything, you may see some great cartoons you can share with your teams or friends around the world who are using some of these techniques.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
<p>- mike vizdos<br />
    <a href="http://www.michaelvizdos.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelvizdos.com</a><br />
    <a href="http://www.implementingscrum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.implementingscrum.com</a></p>
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